There comes a time in all societies of history that happens when there is an awakening. Each time an awakening has occurred the forces of power of the time seem unable stop. The old forces behind ideas of the policies begin to split the majority with growing polarization and the imposing over-regulation always losses in the end, giving way to the new ideas. However, for those philosophies to become policies before they die out has to reach it to the majority to win just as every country that has ever existed has. Many in the world would say we are on the cusp of that awakening that over comes the old force. No matter how unorganized and scattered it may seem reality of the urgency becomes clear.
Reality has to become envisioning that playing board games is exactly what life is like. It’s all a game in the end according to the current playing field. We all would like to dismiss that. This is the current reality no matter how much we would like for it not to be but those that run our country ‘behind the curtain’ certainly do treat is as such. Thus, the only way to win is to play the game. Living life according to how leaders expect us to by following laws they lay out through legislation, courts, and executive orders. If we don’t follow them then we are considered civil disobedient and not allowed to participate in the system to the full extent.
Playing the game is exactly why so many professionals go through the schooling and struggle of scrutiny to obtain any licenses. Many will agree though that the game is stacked against us because we have no say as to what the policies end up being no matter how many movement’s have a few esoteric member’s that add up to quite a few. Just envision if a few combined their causes. Sound’s like the 60’s in a way, huh?
The question becomes this though: Are we out to WIN the game or only play it? Being that the game is stacked against us it becomes much clearer that the system (game) is set up so that the majority of the citizens are assured to only play and not even try to win because to get any further than current reality is just too difficult.
Bringing us to the next question: What game are we trying to win? Putting freedom candidates into the White House, Congress, or Senate? Is that going to be enough? Will this Ron Paul movement die due to ideas that beating the current system is apparently just too difficult? Or are we going about it too chaotically?
It’s apparent that a handful still hangs on, hoping and even advocating to everyone they know the best they can. Although it’s not over until the fat lady sings we all agree that it is a rigged game. How do we defeat cheaters? Calling those that say they will vote one way and vote another out is one way and making sure it makes it out to the public and not hidden is a good start. Reality being that the game is rigged against us and we can’t play the game the way we are taught to or how WE feel it should be, then we must concede that the only way to win is to PLAY THEIR GAME!!!
Does that mean we cheat, lie, or steal by holding secret meetings, bribing officials with perks, or any of the current traditions that are engrained into the current game? Isn’t fighting the corruption why we try to play the game straight when they don’t have to?
The ONLY way to win games is to play the same game. This does not advocate for any of the above listed negative items and we know it can be done without them. It does mean though continued information countering just as most diligent 9/11 debunking that has attempted, too late, but attempted none the less. The problem seems to lie in that this countering only seems to happen as fringe movements with scattered ideas and no leadership or congruence allowing the current ‘winners’ easy pickings to call it ‘conspiracy’ or disregard it as incredible. It only happens after something large enough events happen that it becomes desperation at the last minutes rather than being timely enough to make a difference.
There has been no promoting of counter ‘think tanks’ against all the ones that are making policy and getting people elected. Those ‘think tanks’ being CFR, Builerberg’s, and the like. These ‘think tanks’ churn out reports and present them to our policy maker’s as only options or limited options according to their agenda. Is there any ‘credible’ experts’ countering ANY of these reports other than a couple of individuals that are easily dismissed because of lack of support? Is there some entity that can be used like BTM to give us a place to have experts collaborate without having to create a new website every time an urgent issue needs to be debated because they get booted off anything mainstream not allowing the discussion to ‘grow legs’ before dismissed? We need to hold meetings and go over the government policies that are presented, passed, and continued reporting of consequences of any laws that were questioned by the counter group to assure ‘quality control’. If CFR puts a report out, it should be read by a large group, discussed, and a counter report either supporting the policy or explaining the concerns any policy may cause to harm citizens. There are groups that do this now but most of the time it isn’t heard about until a few days it is on the floor and congressman or Senator’s already have their mind made up in committee where they were presented with the CFR reports to begin with. I know there must be groups doing this or how else would Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich have the ability to propose bills that counter the ‘winners’ bills. However, even with all the sites I have been to I have not heard of but a few splinter groups that sort of collaborate but seem as secretive as our foes.
To WIN this game the citizens need to gain traction by having better timing when information is presented to form credible countering. Somehow most politicians get voted in over and over even after they vote against how they campaigned, is indicative of our apathy to the way they act. They are not held accountable and allowed to just walk away from questioning and are not taken to court to answer the people unless it has to do with drama.
Let’s WIN this game by taking back our policies through due diligence and timely counter information. Holding monthly and annual meetings along with the forums of debate by the collective would allow politicians a place to come to see what their citizens concerns are rather than us having to contact them and hope they get the message in time for their vote. We are all frustrated with the current system from the Electoral College to over regulation of our lives but reality is the game that has to be played is rigged against the REAL majority due to superior mentality attitudes of our leaders. The majority of us have figured out that this is where they have gained the edge in the whole process. If there are only a few people to pick from on a ballot then it is easier to assure the person you want is on that ballot by funding both sides like they have in all the wars. An investor is guaranteed to win if they short a stock they own by the right amount. This is how they play the game and we just have to figure out how to tear down the wall they built.
This only means that we need to use our numbers against them. Currently they use our numbers against us by playing on our weaknesses especially with the polarizing issues. It will take more organizing because they have full time warriors, were we will have to use lots of highly organized part timers. Using the internet we can assign tasks and pass things on much easier and faster if we work together. We need people to continually scan their sites to post projects that need to be taken on for rebuttal discussion on the forums as we do with normal news now. Forming teams of experts to counter everything they do. Assuring interviews from our own media immediately follow mainstream interviews to ask more poignant questions.
There has to be enough groups to band together to create a more cohesive cause. Regardless of the disagreements we have had in the forums. From the looks of the views count in the forums it started with about 80-100 that began monitoring the boards but now there only seems to be about 20-30 people that continuously monitor these postings. We can revive this site past just the Ron Paul Money Bombs it has become known for. There has been lot’s of ideas. However, it just seems that each and every time there is a new idea there has to be another site opened and everyone redirected. What’s wrong with using BTM as the continual news and free advertising for other freedom media that people on this site are a part of?
Maybe this can truly be the uniting force for us all; without needing some President or other figure to do that for us. This would be great if we can just get one or two NEW stories out that the mainstream media HAS to quote BTM for the source. That would take this thing off so fast like salon.com or any of those other supposed news sources quoted nowadays.
These are a few of my ideas of what can be done if we want to WIN this game and gain ground on those ‘think tanks’ we see currently pushing policy on our leaders to go the direction they want instead of what the people are asking for.
Opening the discussion as to how we can make this happen!!!
If there some other groups holding similar ideology as above, other than those organizations that churn out the late information referred to in this post, that I’m missing and need to be directed to or informed of, it would be greatly appreciated.
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You're missing the point but getting it at the same time. I am not referring to people of 'stature' having to be the ONLY ones to be giving 'credibility' to rebute legislative theology. That is exactly what we are fighting. I in no way was suggesting becoming what they are to fight them. NO WAY.
We are referring to the concept of getting rebuttal information in front of those that make the decisions, at the committee level rather than 'expecting' that our leaders are going to interpret OTHER think tanks as something that is for the interest of the whole rather than just the few it is designed to benefit. It is making sure 'the people' are the ending decision makers not those that are 'feeding' our elected officials the 'approved path' to follow.
What you are referring to is EXACTLY the environment these 'counter' reports need to come from. There are experts in every organization, but just because there is a society of some profession with a committee that decides to agree to support, say 9/11 report, and others of that society that do not agree have no way to step out of the society without creating a new one. Again that doesn't allow it to gain any support other than deflated attacks of unpatriotic slander/libel. We all know history (age) gives best 'credible' support rather than some new 'movement'. If there is a place that is always looking after the people and gains history of doing so then there is an automatic correlation to 'crediblity' for those that don't wish to participate in what is presumed to be 'official' by the collective.
Grass root movements that go farther than getting the 'right' people in to office. That is exactly how they beat us, is to make us believe our job is over once we have elected a 'patriot' to office. Then just expect them all to turn out like Dr. Paul. If we depend on experience and 'history' for every candidate then there are very few to choose from.
When 'self-interest' no longer runs our politicians and the theology of everyone elected is for the constitution, great no sweat, until then we cannot trust the grass roots alone will pick the most prudent candidate and hold their feet to the fire, so to speak. After they are elected they usually get 'corrupted' behind scenes and they all learn how to get perks as well. That is what history has showed us. No matter how successfull the grass roots have been to get candidate elected, it hasn't succeeded in preventing the encroaching tyranny we currently are experiencing no matter how hard they have fought over the last 40 years.
All that is being suggested is a more pro-active movement and organization to hold EVERYONE'S self interest to be relevant rather than only those making decisions on our behalf.
Sounds a little idealistic, like a think tank is uncorrupted?? They are MORE corruptible than a single politician. And MORE desirable to corrupt than a simple singular public official.
But you do have some good points.
If you put a noose around the neck of a neo con and put him up on a stool, he'll kick the stool out from under himself because "well for better or for worse I'm already here."
The problem with academia and "intellectual credibility", is that those are tools the the elitists use to manipulate and subjugate the people who can't afford the proper documentation from the prestigious universities.
I understand the importance and value of good education and academic acumen, but a Harvard Diploma does not make a man a scholar. Indeed just about every diploma offered in the American educational system private and public is just a glorified job training certificate.
Your talking about weeding through the grass roots, taking the people with the best academic credentials, which usually mean they are from a higher socio-economic class and putting them in a position of unofficial representation on behalf of a group of people who are more often than not just hard working blue collar middle class Americans. One of the things that attracted me to Dr. Paul in the first place is that hes got a history of working. He's not just some @$$hole with a suit and a doctorate, no, he was a practicing medical doctor, a working man.
Obviously people within the revolution are free to do whatever they want, but I personally won't be supporting any such institution.
We do just fine as a citizens coalition, where the farmer, and the police officer, and the lawyer, and the musician, etc etc are all accessible to one another, and live and die by their merits as individuals rather than the level of status they have attained from bogus institutions that serve our enemies.
I think self educated workaday citizens lend themselves more to the credibility of our cause, than traditional academics.
If you put a noose around the neck of a neo con and put him up on a stool, he'll kick the stool out from under himself because "well for better or for worse I'm already here."
I wholeheartedly agree with you that the farmer and the policeman need to be well-educated people who are in tune with literature, history, economics, etc. Education is not the preserve of the elite, nor should everyone be scooping up professional degrees and calling it education - nor should institutions be offering those degrees (but that's a different discussion...).
But we do have professional thinkers and scholars. The size, wealth, and diversity of our nation demands a class (and I am not using that term in the Marxist sense) of these people. They have a role to play, and an important one, albeit amenable to different interpretations.
In order to be intellectually viable I think that we need professional thinkers to form pro-libertarian think-tanks. These think-tanks should by all means include data and testimony from other kinds of folks, but it is the professional who will have the time to devote to this task.
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I disagree with you revol - I think that think tanks are a positive concept, even if their products are not always great. They are a good opportunity to incoroporate academia into the public sphere.
Libertarian-oriented think tanks, journals, and newspapers can promote the intellectual credibility and political legitimacy of libertarian ideas. It does not mean that individuals and smaller groups will be over run by larger, "elitist" groups - like all things, individuals will need to maintain an eye on what's going on and keep pressure on these groups to represent their wishes.
-dommy
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Think Tanks are elitist BS. We can do much much more, by putting our heads together on a grass roots level that its not even funny. You can I are individual citizens, we have tremendous freedoms and abilities that are restricted by frivolous legalities.
I don't mean to crap on the idea. I was a proponent of it at one point as well, but i have come to see that individual citizens, and citizens groups can serve the same purpose with the same effect and much less Government involvement.
If you put a noose around the neck of a neo con and put him up on a stool, he'll kick the stool out from under himself because "well for better or for worse I'm already here."
Most contain people with the education required to solve complicated problems.
While ordinary people can handle the sanitary needs of a community of 20 people and 5 homes, few can handle the problems generated by a community of 1 million. And sanitation is rather simple.
But you do not know the needs, let alone the available equipment, nor the technology involved.
Think Tanks are invaluable.
But those populated by the Boris's of the world leave a lot to be desired.