Our national leaders didn't expect this!
Guess our national leaders didn't expect this, hmm? On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton , Colorado , was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful.
They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript:
" Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of vio l ence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.
"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.
"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.
I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy -- it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.
Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
You've stripped away our heritage,
You've outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question "Why?" You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need!
" Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit . When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational
systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs -- politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.
"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America , and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA -- I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your
own heart before casting the first stone!
My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"
Do what the media did not - - let the nation hear this man's speech.. Please send this out to everyone you can. God Bless
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"I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy -- it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.
Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
You've stripped away our heritage,
You've outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question "Why?" You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need! "
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It is a hard heart indeed that fails to turn to God in the face of unspeakable tragedy. When the pain is too great, the loss too much to bear, the deepest tears laced with prayers are heard, and answered.
An atheist doesn't have to believe this now. But the time arrives for us all, one way or another, sooner or later.
Thank-you for sharing your story.
I feel like his words were my own heart.
I know we are all connected
when will the world wake up?
Back to the main subject. If it's not a gun issue and not a religious issue that leaves at least three other options the killers are to blame, or the parents of the killers or the department of education. Well being a small goverment man I will blame the Department of education. Most kids have internet and they know the schools are lieing to them. How can a child follow the rules when politians don't. Childern see what their parents do and the adults around them too. Rules are all ways bent or disregarded. I don't know any of the people involved. But it is a tragedy. And their is no right answer. Their is one thing I am sure about in life , I am usually wrong.
"It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, it is very hard to understand why there is such a mess about having the Ten Commandments on display or "In God We Trust" on our money and having God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just tell the other 14% to Sit Down and SHUT UP!!!"
Ummmm.... Nice website... Very Constitutional...
There is no doubt that Christianity is part of our heritage. There is also no doubt genocide and baby killing is part of our heritage. We were also a nation that kept slaves, as was our right, according to the bible.
1776 was not the pinnacle year for science, after all.
If you look at the documents of our founding fathers, you will not see mentioned anything about Christ. Why is that? Because this nation was founded on a new idea, the idea of a secular nation whereby all faiths were welcome. Christianity thrived here because parents continually lied to children, it was the dominant lie at the time; at first, because they didn't know better, and now, because they prefer the lie to the truth...
How does a Christian reconcile the commandment to not bear false witness with the obvious lie of Adam and Eve? This is one I would really like to have answered.
Or the whole Noah thing? Have you been reduced to "just stories" as you should be? Or are you still attempting to bear false witness?
When looking backwards in time, one must comprehend the knowledge extant at the time and hold this up against the religious beliefs of the same period.
When done so, intellects like Jefferson's really stand out as miraculous for their acumen and foresight.
I mean, who could know then, that science was about to take the bible and shred it into the fairy tales it has always been?
Now that you know there was no "garden of eden", will you stop lying to children by telling them that there was?
"You can believe what you like , but please don't push your beliefs on others! Thats what has
made this nation so great"...
Ummmm... After nearly two thousand years of propigating lies, Christians are suddenly forced into looking at their book with modern knowledge, and it ain't pretty. The only reason I take the effort and the time to be rational and reasonable with you, is that Christianity keeps trying to control government by coagulating into groups and voting in blocks. After Bush was elected by "Christian Coalitions", it became apparent that it is high time this nation grew up and its populace stopped believing in things which are simply untrue. Having a majority deluded population makes for bad government in a democracy. In fact, it turns it into a theocracy.
What I have been reading it's the Quackers who seem to have done more for this country in colonial times for religious freedom. Is their a Quacker on this web site that can give me more insight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaker_history
I can't find the edit button
Are you calling them Quackers on purpose? I have a friend who is a Quaker, I will see if I can get him to join us here.
"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him." ~Voltaire
"Remember this nation was founded on Christian Principals."
Sorry, dude. You are wrong. The nation was founded on secular principles. Read a little history. Stop listening to the corner preachers who tell you lies. IF it was founded on "Christian principles, you would have read the name "Christ" somewhere in the founding documents. You really should not bear false witness against Jefferson...
The first crime was not Cain and Abel. They never existed. They were fictitious characters in a book written by men who could not possibly know who the first two humans were, nor their children. The first humans were impossible to actually define, as they were evolving from lesser primates. The fossil record is there for you to investigate if you seek the truth (to set you free, no less...) The first crime was unrecorded and probably involved a rock and a hard head...
Your 85% quote is laughable. There aren't enough churches to house 85% of the population on any given sunday.
Most people who claim a "belief" in god, do so because they have been socialized into making the proclamation. The number that believe the bible is factual is much smaller and the number that take the bible literally, even smaller still.
Morality is a human trait that exists outside of all religions. It existed before religions, and it will exist after most religions have dried up and disappeared. Morality can be shown to have evolved and grown IN SPITE of religion, not because of religion. If not, you would be stoning unruly teen-agers, killing people who work on the sabbath, taking slaves and young virgins for your pleasure...
You're not, are you?
The poor guy who lost his daughter to the gunman is understandably upset, but that doesn't mean he is correct.
I'm 45, have never been a god-nut, and I would wager I am far more noble and moral than most religious nuts.
To start with, I never lie to children.
Scott, I really must say that you need to stop drinking so much "Kool Aid"
"Many a slip between the cup and the lip" Might trying using a straw next time.
There were ONLY 3 of the 55 Founders that were "secular" The other 52 were
members of the Orthodox Church.
DID YOU KNOW?
Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the established orthodox churches in the colonies.
Just above the judges in the supreme court room is a large display of the "Ten Commandments"
As you walk up the steps to the building which houses the U.S. Supreme Court you can see near the top of the building a row of the world's law givers and each one is facing one in the middle who is facing forward with a full frontal view ... it is Moses and he is holding the Ten Commandments!
If you go to this site:
http://www.tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=liberty4us&pag...
About a third way down that page is the history of our Founding Fathers!
You can beleive what you like , but please don't push your beliefs on others! Thats what has
made this nation so great.
Remember the Words you say keep them soft and sweet You never know from day to day which one's you'll have to eat! www.tiptopwebsite.com/liberty4us
Perhaps you are confusing the founders foresight in allowing individual beliefs but keeping government secular. The founders knew that our nation would consist of many religions, and it would be immoral for government to favor one over the other, so they decided that it should be secular.
The government pandering to one religion over another is the same as government fiscally pandering to one group over another, which you would most likely agree is immoral.
Perhaps you should read more of John Locke and Thomas jefferson all of whom were secularists when it came to religion.
The government has no business favoring one religion over another, nor one individual over another, because the government is supposed to represent all tax paying citizens equally.
I found two sites on early Colonist religion. You can read them both. Our founding fathers were Religious. But taxes is what ticked them off, enough to go to war. http://www.writing.com/main/view_item/item_id/1172504 and http://www.americanforeignrelations.com/Da-El/Disestablishment.html Taking all thirteen colonies into consideration there amounted to a total of 3105 religious organizations. Of these 3105, over six hundred congregations were of the Congregationalist order, mostly in New England. Approximately five hundred and fifty were Presbyterians, five hundred Baptist, four hundred eighty Anglican, three hundred of the Society of Friends, a little over two hundred fifty German and Dutch Reformed, one hundred fifty Lutheran, and fifty Catholic. (Jameson, 85) Despite the many popular denominations formed, until 1766 no marriages were legal unless the ceremonies were preformed by Episcopal clergymen. Only to the Presbyterians and the Anglicans was this service extended to. (Jameson, 84) Another law permitted that only men of the Episcopal faith could teach school. (Jameson, 84) With all of the varieties of religious denominations formed, it is obvious that the shock of the American Revolution would loosen the bonds which bound unwilling people to any church established by law. In New England however, this was not expected to be such a problem because the majority of the people belonged to the established church. (Jameson, 85)
Hello,
I hope all is well with you,
I have to say I can't agree with you on this post, you see, if I understand your intent, you are claiming one must derive a moral code from a belief in a God.
It seems then, that if one were say an atheist then they would have no moral compass to follow, no God to pray to for guidance.
That is where I disagree, I have met too many good, moral atheists in my life to think that.
At the same time, one might argue that on the whole the belief in a God, heaven, hell, in having a life after this one, has caused millions and millions of murders to take place.
In the end, I would fight to the death to allow you to have your religion and your beliefs in God and your ability to pray, but would fight equally as fiercely against any effort to force those beliefs upon others.
Take care.
One other freedom you also have in this country is
the freedom to LEAVE if you don't like it here!!
So either respect our way of life or Adios .. Sounds
fair enough to me!
I'm not sure if you truly understand freedom and liberty. They are not simply to achieve your own selfish aims.
this post was refering to god in the class room for the most part, and our schools in general. there are not many choices a parent has in schools where their child would be free to express his beliefs in god "legally". the only option would be to pay out of pocket and have the child schooled in a private school. other than that theres home schooling but who has the time for that now a days.
my point...there arent many places the parent can just pick up and leave too as stated above.
whom do you speak for when you mention "our way of life"?
As the "subject" says.
You have no control over others. You and I can look at
the same thing and see it differently, so express your
views and let it be! As you can see my name has Only
1(one) "T" You spelled it with two? So?
I like the sound of your second comment more than
your first
You have a valid point, and I respect that! Remember this nation was founded on Christian Principals.
You were FREE (In this Country) to choose what religious beliefs you wanted to pursue! NO other
Country had that freedom! So IF you want to be an athiest that was your choice! 86% of Americans
believe in God. So why don't the other 14% just leave it alone? That makes sense!!
Remember the Words you say keep them soft and sweet You never know from day to day which one's you'll have to eat! www.tiptopwebsite.com/liberty4us
Democracy? Dont we hate that?