China Orders Strike Against US For Catastrophic Earthquake
Posted by Miss Green on Fri, 05/30/2008 - 1:56pm in HAARP is a pretty new subject to me, but I wanted to get everyone's view on this article.
-Miss Green
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers (Traducción al Español abajo)
Russian Foreign Ministry reports are stating today the Prime Minister Putin’s ‘sudden’ diplomatic trip to France was made at the behest of China’s President Hu in order to ‘warn’ the European Union not to become involved with the US following what is widely expected to be a ‘retaliatory strike’ against the United States, and who the Chinese military has blamed for the catastrophic May 12th earthquake that has killed nearly 90,000 human beings.
Chinese and Russian Military scientists, these reports say, are concurring with Canadian researcher, and former Asia-Pacific Bureau Chief of Forbes Magazine, Benjamin Fulford, who in a very disturbing video released from his Japanese offices to the American public, details how the United States attacked China by the firing of a 90 Million Volt Shockwave from the Americans High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) facilities in Alaska.
So powerful was this Shockwave, Britain’s Times Online News Service is reporting that the entire atmosphere over the Chinese earthquake zone became mysteriously changed 30 minutes prior to the 8.0 Magnitude Trembler
“Can clouds predict earthquakes? YouTube has footage of strange multicoloured clouds seen just 30 minutes before the recent earthquake struck Sichuan province in China.
The first impression is of a rainbow smeared on to small scraps of clouds, a phenomenon best known in a circumzenithal halo. This is created when sunlight shines through cirrus clouds full of tiny hexagonal ice crystals shaped like plates. The crystals behave like glass prisms, splitting the light into a bow with the colours of the spectrum, often brighter than a rainbow.
But one puzzle is that the colours in the Chinese clouds were upside down from a normal circumzenithal halo – red pointing towards the horizon and blue towards the Sun, instead of the other way round.”
Russian scientists are further speculating that the United States strike against China was ‘exactly timed’ to coincide with the dangerous experiments ongoing at Large Hadron Collider for the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN), and which we had previously reported on in our May 13th report titled “CERN ‘Nailed Heart Of Earth’ With China Quake, Chilean Volcano”.
Russian Military Analysts note that though China’s Military has ordered its vast submarine fleet to ‘disperse’ throughout the Pacific Ocean, the Chinese ‘attack’ against the United States would, most likely, take a form of economic warfare instead of an actual clashing of forces.
More disturbing, however, in these reports is China’s urging of both Syria and Turkey not to allow more water into mighty rivers of the Euphrates and Tigris, which the Iraqis are warning are running dry due to the severe drought in that war-torn Nation.
The importance of this latest move by China is the newly signed Defense Pact signed between Iran and Syria which would allow Chinese Military Forces permission to use Iranian territory to come to the aid of Syria.
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. . . that used vibrational harmonic frequencies, which when properly tuned, would excite an object and, theoretically, cause it to shake until it broke apart. It's said he briefly activated it near a steel building under construction in NYC, but when the building began to resonate, he became alarmed, turned it off, and left.
I'm not sure of the accuracy of that story, but here's some discussion on "Yahoo Answers" that some may find interesting:
Is it possible to take down a building using specific frequency waves?
I seen on the History channel a thing about Nikola Tesla and it said that one of his inventions caused a building to shake. The explanation of why this was possible is because matter can be forced to vibrate if it is exposed to its specific frequency wave. It also showed this happening with a wine glass. They put a speaker emitting the specific frequency that vibrated glass next to the wine glass and it started to shake and when they turned it all the way up it shook even more then shattered. The device that shook the building for Tesla was also only the size of an alarm clock. Is this concept true?
-more- http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080818223332AAgR319
I think China is over reacting. What does US have to do with their problems. Lately, I've heard that they even accused Europe for something they claim they did to them. It's not normal that each time they have problems they blame the others.
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Looking at the results of a search on her, it seems like even other conspiracy theorists believe she is a fictional character created by the owner of the whatdoesitmean website.
Tom Mullen
www.tommullen.net
www.myspace.com/skepticsongs
Here's a CBC video report on HAARP, an experiment made by USA to engineer the weather.
HAARP CBC Broadcast Weather control. Parts 1 & 2
http://www.breakthematrix.com/Government/HAARP-CBC-Broadcast-Weather-con...
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Did in fact do a lot of theorizing with earthquakes. You can find a lot of information on it.. he was disinclined to do any testing of course since the technology.. and I couldn't find the exact quote I appologize.. but something along the lines of destroying the world. He was somewhat of a humanitarianist :)
Here's one article http://www.rastko.org.yu/rastko/delo/10897
Anyway, keep the data coming and keep digging!
built and tested on mythbusters, in a small scale experiment. They tried to shake apart an old bridge.
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v242550g5qCztwz
Interestingly, when I tried to view the video, the site reported that it is no longer available.
Right on, thanks, gotta love the myth busters. And with that began a 45+ minute distraction..
I know this particular article by the OP isn't too reliable but it's so fascinating I for one have to continue researching.
Here is more info about HAARP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAARP
Like it says the facility is extremely open and its actions are logged and available to the public apparently (where?). Also there is the claim that the power level available is quite small. I'd like to see more evidence supporting the ability of HAARP or an equivalent facility to secretly pull this off. So far all we've reeeally seen is photographs of the facility that anyone can see, and the science of it is explained but nothing to suggest HARP can output that power.
Any more thoughts on it? Maybe this is provable/disprovable with the power of the community investigative journalist!
Haarp also has its own website:
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/
This is a quote from the site on technical aspects:
Technical Information
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The HAARP Ionospheric Research facility will be a major Arctic facility for conducting upper atmospheric research. The facility will consist of two essential parts:
A high power transmitter and antenna array operating in the High Frequency (HF) range. The transmitter is capable of delivering up to 3.6 million Watts to an antenna system consisting of 180 crossed dipole antennas arranged as a rectangular, planar array.
A complete and extensive set of scientific instruments for observation of both the background auroral ionosphere and of the effects produced during active research using the transmitter system. Output from these instruments is readily available world-wide in near real time over the internet.
During active ionospheric research, the signal generated by the transmitter system is delivered to the antenna array, transmitted in an upward direction, and is partially absorbed, at an altitude between 100 to 350 km (depending on operating frequency), in a small volume a few hundred meters thick and a few tens of kilometers in diameter over the site. The intensity of the HF signal in the ionosphere is less than 3 microwatts per cm2, tens of thousands of times less than the Sun's natural electromagnetic radiation reaching the earth and hundreds of times less than even the normal random variations in intensity of the Sun's natural ultraviolet (UV) energy which creates the ionosphere. The small effects that are produced, however, can be observed with the sensitive scientific instruments installed at the HAARP facility and these observations can provide new information about the dynamics of plasmas and new insight into the processes of solar-terrestrial interactions.
Thanks for the rundown Neil. And with that I think you know.. it's quite only half the picture for someone who knows their science and so on to just say that HAARPdid such a thing and can do such a thing. If they had used it for a case study on proving the possibility and mentioning another facility, or else show the activity logs at the time of the earthquake then it's arguable at least. At least this conspiracy is full of fun science
after the horrible earthquake and tsunami devastation - - conspiracy theories were flying all over that underwater subsonic weapons were detonated along the fault line to trigger that disaster. Also remember reading about underwater nuclear explosions on the fault line.
I always assumed people wanted to find fault or blame with human activity because it was easier to accept some evil person or person(s) were to blame for all the misery rather than the real source - nature itself. For example, when Pompeii got leveled all those years ago by Mt Vesuvius, do you think some of the survivors came up with explanations that blamed everything under the sun but the damn active volcano they lived below for their misery?
I do.
Only difference now is the level of technology involved. Instead of burning witches for famines, floods, and other natural disasters like so many poor souls in Europe several centuries ago; we blame real or imagined ionospheric super energy weapons. The more things change...
I looked for some kind of source that indicated a foreign official was making these claims and I couldn't find it.
"Russian Foreign Ministry reports are stating.." - Really? What reports? Where?
The rest of the story is built off of the assumption of the existence of these reports. If there are credible sources that state these things I would demand they be provided or dismiss this as absolute nonsense. Did I miss the links to the reports?
I just wanted to post this article and see what everyone thought about it. I haven't been able to find much information on it, and thought someone on BTM may have heard some things about HAARP.
It can be dismissed as nonsense, that's fine with me- I just wanted to see if anyone else had heard about it.
-Miss Green
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
I posted a story about this in the weekend
http://www.breakthematrix.com/Government/China-Earthquake-caused-by-HAAR...
2 people thoughout I was nuts with this story
two people may have responded to your nutty ideas. i promise you a lot more than two people think you're nuts.
I'm glad you posted it Ms Green. My frustrations w/ articles like this are that they are plentiful on the net and so many people DO buy into them without demanding any proof. In the long run, if HAARP is something to worry about, articles like this act as cover. They make the issue seem like non-sense and turn the mainstream off of the topic. If the mainstream doesn't care there will be no change. This is the crux of what bothers me w/ so much conspiracy theory. Sometimes they cite great sources and so in fact they bring out interesting points.. then they go on to minimize themselves by making themselves look like they believe anything when they push articles like these. In the end the constant stream of articles such as these serve to dull our societies attention to the issues that actually exist.
Trevor,
I have a conspiracy theory theory that very closely parallels what you state in your comment. Conspirators immunize their conspiracies from exposure by exposing their conspiracies themselves with both factual information and outlandish disinformation.
"And what is this liberty, whose very name makes the heart beat faster and shakes the world?" -- Frederic Bastiat
Is it even possible to cause a massive earthquake in such a manner???
I have never heard of this activity before (likely super top secret if real so no surprise there)- but to be honest, it wouldnt surprise me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAARP
According to the above, HAARP is an investigation project to "understand, simulate and control ionospheric processes that might alter the performance of communication and surveillance systems."
Whatever that means. I notice DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) is on board..so anything is possible. Perhaps instead of causing an earthquake, it just steals information or blocks signals intelligence or something? Or that is what the public thinks it does and it shoots invisible lasers into the earth triggering natural chaos. Man i hope someone debunks this eathquake thing. Seems conspiracy minded to me...
"Inexplicable humans...how can you combine so much baseness and so much greatness, so many virtues and so many crimes?" Francois Marie Arouet de Voltaire, 'The World As it Is" circa 1748.
I posted the follow with the "China Earthquake caused by HAARP weapon" posting which linked to a Lyndon LaRouche website. None of the China news websites I checked are reporting anything about either HAARP causing the earthquake or any response by the Chinese government regarding a connection between HAARP and the earthquake. If there is any connection between the earthquakes and the rainbow, it is probably due to super heated water vapor being vented, and condensing and freezing in the upper atmosphere.
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"Tectonic earthquakes will occur anywhere within the earth where there is sufficient stored elastic strain energy to drive fracture propagation along a fault plane. In the case of transform or convergent type plate boundaries, which form the largest fault surfaces on earth, they will move past each other smoothly and aseismically only if there are no irregularities or asperities along the boundary that increase the frictional resistance. Most boundaries do have such asperities and this leads to a form of stick-slip behaviour. Once the boundary has locked, continued relative motion between the plates leads to increasing stress and therefore, stored strain energy in the volume around the fault surface. This continues until the stress has risen sufficiently to break through the asperity, suddenly allowing sliding over the locked portion of the fault, releasing the stored energy. This energy is released as a combination of radiated elastic strain seismic waves, frictional heating of the fault surface, and cracking of the rock, thus causing an earthquake."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake
The HAARP weapon, unless it has the capability of moving massive tectonic plates, is not going to "cause' an earthquake. There is some possibility that a man-made device could trigger a tectonic earthquake prematurely. All of the conditions for the earthquake would have to be already in place. The man-made device would just provide the final nudge required for the quake to happen sooner. There could actually be some benefit in causing an earthquake to trigger prematurely. By causing the earthquake to happen sooner rather than later, it would have less energy to release than when it eventually triggered on its own. I suspect that anything humans can do to trigger an earthquake would only work at a time very close to when it would have occurred on its own. So it may not really be of any significant benefit.
"And what is this liberty, whose very name makes the heart beat faster and shakes the world?" -- Frederic Bastiat
It won't be long and this site will be a lot bigger. Our legitimacy will be judged by our content and how we treat it. When extraordinary claims are made, they require require extraordinary proof. When the proof is not provided with the posting, then it is fair game. Occasionaly it is possible that extraordinary claims will be made that ARE true, I'd hate them to be lost amongst the unfounded conspiracy theories and unscientific hokum.
Yeah, that's why I decided to post it up. I haven't done any research on it yet and just recently got introduced to HAARP, so I'm really curious what everyone else on BTM thinks.
As usual, thanks for your comments!
-Miss Green
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
Sounds like a lot. We are used to the 110 volts in our wall socket. But cathode ray tubes in our old TVs used up to 40,000 volts. But to really bring 90,000,000 volts into scale, a lightening bolt can be up to 1,000,000,000 volts. That's right, a lightening bolt can be 11 times more powerful than the discharge that the article is concerned with
From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_discharge#Discharge
"An average bolt of positive lightning carries a current of up to 300 kA (kiloamperes) (about ten times as much current as a bolt of negative lightning), transfers a charge of up to 300 coulombs, has a potential difference up to 1 gigavolt (one billion volts), and lasts for hundreds of milliseconds, with a discharge energy of up to 300 GJ (gigajoules) (a billion joules)."
So, my initial impression is that this is just conspiracy theory. If someone can establish the current involved it could get more interesting. Remember that Tesla used to do demonstrations where he would let extremely high voltage electricity at extremely low amperage. I am relying on memory, but I believe it was up to a million volts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Coil#The_.27skin_effect.27_and_high_f...
Scroll down the Wikipedia article and you'll see a picture of such a demonstration.
to search the names when an article is unreferenced.
Benjamin Fulford is a well Known Canadian reporter on conspiracy theorists.
Well known enough to be listed in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Fulford
Qoted from the Wikipedia reference:
"In recent times, he has given a number of interviews to conspiracy theorists, and therein claimed that:
AIDS and SARS are bio-engineered weapons designed to reduce the Asian population.
A Chinese secret society has installed 100,000 Ninja assassins worldwide, and has issued an ultimatum to the Illuminati, warning them that if they persist with their plan to depopulate the earth, the Ninja assassins will be instructed to wipe them out.[4]
More recently Fulford has stated that the US have been able to alter the climate, and using high power microwave energy induce earth quakes including the Asian Tsunami, Japanese and Chinese quakes. The program he refers to is known as HAARP High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program"
how did he get an interview with David Rockefeller Sr.? i saw this on my local public access channel.... he talks about his ninjas :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu6dWGfOy2k
energy, atmospheric, research, electricity, red sky, directed weapons, devastation. But hey, its a good one (hint - conspiracy theory).
Read the third paragraph
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sci_tesla1.htm
Tesla/Tunguska
Yeah, I left out the third paragraph because I didn't want this to turn into a religious forum. I'd rather everyone just focus on the content.
-Miss Green
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
This seems like a very far-fetched idea. Probably nothing to it.
More likely that the Navy's experimentation with VLF is more to blame.
Except it isn't to blame.
Again, it is nigh impossible to disprove something for with there is no proof.