The Bilderberg Predicament
To be certain, responses to Bilderberg-related content on BreaktheMatrix have been hit or miss. One article I posted got voted down and archived, likely because of its infowars.com origin. If that’s the case, it’s a logical fallacy –to dismiss an argument (or article) because of its source.
I am not a huge Alex Jones fan; I have listened on occasion and while interesting, quite frankly, he scares the crap out of me. After listening to his show, I buy an extra gallon of water at the grocery store to stock the garage shelf. Is that normal?
In short, I have no desire to be a female version of Alex Jones. Nor do I want BreakTheMatrix to become another Infowars. We are much more than that in our scope and mission. But I am also not going to ignore information that may be important to our freedom movement simply because it originates at Infowars.com. We, at BreakTheMatix, know better than just about anyone – that ignoring the ugly information doesn’t make it go away.
And despite the fringe reputation of Alex Jones and crew, few people can deny that they get the information when few others can or do. Case in point: The Bilderbergers are meeting right now in Chantilly, Va., and the impressive list of members in attendance (including Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google, and Jim Johnson, chosen to head the search for Obama's VP) was posted first by AJ and crew.
I don’t know much about the Bilderberg Group, their motives, or the power they truly wield, but I want to know more. I want to look at the facts and evidence and make an informed decision. Anyone care to join me? This Thursday, on LifeLine, I’m going to spend some time talking about the Bilderberg Group. Join us and share your knowledge, or learn along with me! If you’re a self-described expert, please email me through BreakTheMatrix – I definitely want to hear your thoughts.
In the meantime, you should check out the list of attendees at this weekend’s Bilderberg meeting; I posted a link in the content section.
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Bilderberg 2008 Madeliene Albright Part 1
WeAreChange.org | Madeline Albright is videotaped driving into the Bilderberg 2008 meeting just outside Washington D.C.– and then driving back out only a few minutes later.
Read article... No Excuse For Lack Of Bilderberg Coverage
Lee Rogers | With the U.S. mainstream media failing to cover the 2008 Bilderberg Meeting, it has become obvious that they are simply not interested in covering real news.
Read article... Epoch Times Interview of Alex Jones at Bilderberg
Du Won Kang | Epoch Times interview of Alex Jones at Bilderberg 2008.
Read article... Bilderberg 2008 Welcoming Committee… For Freedom!
YouTube | “All I wanna say is I commend everybody that’s out here!”
Read article... Jack Shafer’s Bilderberg Article: A Response
Kurt Nimmo | Jack Shafer, who wrote an article about Bilderberg for Slate, responds to email.
Read article... Update: Bilderberg Goon with a Gun
Infowars | A comment on Infowars puts to bed the debate
Read article... Bilderberg 2008: Flying High Over The Target
Amy de Miceli
No One Has to Die Tomorrow
June 9, 2008
Marriott Hotel
The annual Bilderberg meeting was held from June fifth through the eighth on American soil, inside the Westfields Marriott Hotel, Chantilly Virginia, the same location as 2002.
Alex Jones and We Are Change along with about a hundred others [...]
Read article... Bilderberg Seeks Bank Centralization Agenda
Lee Rogers | The global elite are getting ready to further centralize the banking system in order to establish their one world cashless society grid.
Read article... Bilderberg Goon with a Gun
Infowars | Bilderberg “security” thug makes sure anti-Bilderberg demonstrators see his weapon.
Read article... Castrated U.S. Media Remains Obediently Silent On Bilderberg
Paul Joseph Watson | Not a single mention in corporate press of 125+ global power brokers meeting behind closed doors.
Read article... Alex Jones Interview at Bilderberg 2008
YouTube | Alex interviewed by a reporter from Epoch Times, video by Chuck Schoon.
Read article... Breaking: Bilderberg Goons Harass Jones Family
Infowars | Suspiciously timed harassing phone call made to Alex Jones’ wife.
Read article... Amy Goodman, Dan Rather Feign Ignorance of Bilderberg
Kurt Nimmo | Minimal research reveals Rather is a member and Goodman’s Democracy Now receives funding from Bilderberg connected foundations.
Read article... Bilderberg Ben and the Globalist Agenda
Kurt Nimmo | Destroying the American middle class is a work in progress and Bernanke arrived at the Marriott to receive further instructions.
Read article... Bilderberg 2008: Day 3 Footage
YouTube | Many more people turned out on Saturday 7th June to take part in the ongoing protest outside the annual Bilderberg Group meeting in Chantilly, Virginia.
Read article... Breaking: Cops and Secret Service Search, Question Infowarrior at Bilderberg
Infowars | Pulled from demo, searched for weapons.
Read article... G. Edward Griffin Discusses Bilderberg on the Alex Jones Show
YouTube | Griffin talks with Jason Bermas, who sat in while Alex confronts the Bilds in Chantilly.
Read article... “Bilderberg Ben Bernanke” Arrives at Globalist Confab
YouTube | Ben Bernanke, boss of the Federal Reserve, as in Federal Express, caught violating the Logan Act.
Read article... We Are Change Bullhorn Bilderberg
YouTube | Dave Cahill, Alex Jones, Abby Martin, Luke Rudkowski Bullhorning at the 2008 Bilderberg Conference.
Read article... Alex Jones Bullhorns Bilderberg
YouTube | Various footgae of Alex Jones Bullhorning the elites meeting in secret at the 2008 Bilderberg confab.
Read article... U.S. Corporate Media Blackout On Bilderberg Meeting
Paul Joseph Watson | Mainstream press dare not utter a single word about 125 of the world’s most influential power brokers meeting in secret to discuss the future of the planet as oil skyrockets towards Bilderberg goal of $200 a barrel.
Read article... Conspiracy of Silence: Corporate Media Refuses to Cover Bilderberg Confab
Kurt Nimmo | Corporate media ignores Bilderberg confabs because they work for interests owned and controlled by the Bilderbergers.
Read article... Obama’s Office Won’t Deny Senator Attended Bilderberg
Paul Joseph Watson | Tight security around Westfields Marriott suggests Illinois Senator and Hillary Clinton met at elite confab.
Read article... Bilderberg: Selected Videos
Infowars | Peter John Lynn, Luke Rudkowski, Daniel Estulin, Alex Jones, and more.
Read article... Video from Bilderberg
YouTube | Video shot on June 5, 2008, outside of the Marriott in Chantilly, VA. Also a video from inside the Marriott before the Bilderberg confab.
Read article... Press Let Rip At Obama Spokesman Over Exclusion From Secret Meeting
Steve Watson | Reporters flown out of Washington as nominee meets Hillary at Bilderberg confab.
Read article... Official 2008 Bilderberg Participant List
Infowars | Fed boss Bernanke, Henry Kissinger, Prince of Darkness Richard Perle, Condi Rice, and former World Bank boss and neocon Paul Wolfowitz on the list.
Read article... Photos: the Bilderberg Confab, 2008
Infowars | Photos of the Bilderberg cabal arriving and the Infowarriors on hand to voice their opposition.
Read article... Hillary & Obama In Secret Bilderberg Rendezvous
Paul Joseph Watson | Campaign spokespeople refuse to disclose location of meeting, but reports admit Democratic candidates convened at “an event in Northern Virginia.”
Read article... Infowars Team Harassed at Marriott Covering Bilderberg
Kurt Nimmo | Security at Westfield Marriott in Chantilly harass, attempt to intimidate Alex Jones and the Infowars media team.
Read article... We Are Change Photos from Bilderberg, 2008
We Are Change
June 5, 2008
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Read article... Spooks Infest Marriott Hotel As Bilderberg Begins
Paul Joseph Watson | Tucker and Jones followed, questioned by FBI as stunt fire alarm interrupts Coast to Coast appearance.
Read article... We Are Change Confronts Bilderberg Darlings, the Clintons
Kurt Nimmo | Bill and Hillary Clinton can run from their documented association with the Bilderbergers, but they cannot hide.
Read article... iPods for the Global Elite
Infowars | The DOJ and the American taxpayer gift the Bilderberg criminals with engraved iPods.
Read article... Alex Jones and Jim Tucker Call In Report from Bilderberg, 2008
The Alex Jones Channel | Alex and Jim file a call-in report to the Alex Jones Show on June 4. Jason Bermas subs for Alex.
Read article... Jim Tucker On the Scene at This Year’s Bilderberg
AFP | AFP editor Jim Tucker discusses the upcoming Bilderberg meeting near the site of this year’s gathering.
Read article... Alex Jones’ Bilderberg Report on Coast to Coast AM
YouTube | First half-hour guest, radio host Alex Jones reported from the site of the 2008 Bilderberg Group meeting in Chantilly, Virginia.
Read article... Bilderberg, Shadow Supergovernment
Enrico Piovesana | A Bilderberg primer as the globalists convene on Thursday in Chantilly, VA., outside of Washington.
Read article... Portuguese Newspaper Admits Bilderberg Kingmaker Power
Paul Joseph Watson | Sol reports on 2008 meeting, cowardly complicit American corporate media silent about this week’s confab of nearly 200 global powerbrokers.
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he definitely is on the right side, and he provides information that should be critically examined. His heart is definitely in the right place, and you need a loud voice to get some people's attention. My own opinion is that sometimes he takes his conclusions too far based upon the evidence he has uncovered. He also sometimes characterizes real issues as "dark conspiracies" when in fact they are really a lot of powerful people in the grip of bad ideas. However, sometimes he's right - they are conspiring!
Regarding Bobo's post, let me say this. At the end of anything, like Enron, I believe there is the "rip and tear" stage. Anything goes, and insanity seems to be all around you. I feel like America is in that rip and tear stage. If you watch business shows, you hear arguments by permabulls that just astound you. I heard six people gang up on Peter Schiff because he wouldn't accept their argument that hurricanes are good for the economy. He said, "if that were true, we could all get rich by breaking windows." The voice of reason - but he was outnumbered six to one by people that said he was wrong. Hurricanes are good for the economy. You hear the government say things just as insane. A Congresswoman stands up and talks about nationalizing the oil industry - in America - and nobody flinches. I am afraid that we are in a downward spiral, and I'm not sure that we will turn this around before we hit a point of chaos.
Tom Mullen
www.tommullen.net
www.myspace.com/skepticsongs
nor optimistic
Sorry, YOU'RE BANNED!!!
LOL! They don't call me Mr. Sunshine for nothing. I do believe that eventually we will prevail - however, the majority of people may not wake up until they experience real hardship that FORCES them to accept that the "system," such as it is right now, doesn't work. A good friend pointed out to me the other day that I should remember that the great majority of people in our country have no idea about the financial/economic cataclysm that is coming. They are still eating out at Applebee's and "buying sneakers that light up," as Sir George puts it. They have no idea about the Federal Reserve or what the definition of inflation is or that we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg right now or anything. Hopefully, we can reach them before people are shooting each other for food in "the land of the free," but there are no guarantees.
Feel better? :)
Tom Mullen
www.tommullen.net
www.myspace.com/skepticsongs
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/061008_secret_agenda.htm
The Big Lie is a propaganda technique. It was defined by Adolf Hitler in his
1925 autobiography Mein Kampf as a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe
that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".
This principle is being extended by the NWO, by their committing acts so horrendous
that anyone who notices looks like a nut. Acts of any degree of depravity are
encouraged, because they reinforce the cloak of psychological denial automatically
triggered in the general population.
Conspiracy watchers are put in a position of reporting acts so horrific no one wants
to believe them, regardless of what evidence is presented. A few brave souls might,
but the bulk start rolling their eyes, smiling, and talking about "conspiracy theorists",
as if humans are all inherently good, and their dictators inherently flawless. Otherwise
how would they be permitted to steal elections? If a crime is possible, and secrecy is
present, chances are it's happening, especially in the financial stratosphere where
government activity predominates.
And the conspiracy stuff just goes deeper and weirder. We haven't even mentioned
David Icke . The non productive NWO thugs all need big salaries on account of their
taxpayer funded "training" and require a criminal enterprise far larger than the IRS to
support them. Guess the outrage, and chances are some NeoCon stiff is out there
somewhere doing it.
First off, I want to give a standing ovation to Lisa and several others who in my opinion really define the freedom of information this site seeks to report. Articles and openness such as this define to me anyways what breaking through the matrix means. I often feel like my views are on the fringe of this site (a place I'm happy to inhabit) but for those that will lead the charge for this offering, this attitude about leaving options open keeps me optimistic and active here.
I want to point out that we already have filtering of the news everywhere. To me that sort of media coverage is a dead market. It assumes that we the people can't discern fact from fiction and are mindless consumers of what is spoon fed to us. I didn't expect to get that here but more often than not that is what people still demand. The fact is that many Ron Paul supporters are very open minded or else they wouldn't have found Paul in the first place. To question whether or not BTM should cover Bilderberg is silly. We know that the meetings happened even though it wasn't widely reported, if at all by the mainstream. So some people would like us to ignore that it even happened because CNN or Fox News didn't give it creedance? We might offend some newbie because that type of information might blow their mind. So much for investigative reporting. I guess we shouldn't talk about Kucinich and the Articles of Impeachment he presented on Monday as well, didn't hear about that from the networks. Maybe we shouldn't talk about taboo principles like Abolishing the Fed or the IRS while we're at it. Those types of things got huge laughs during the debates and even now at state conventions.
I want to remind people that Ron Paul has been around with this message for over 30 years! He didn't change his tune yesterday as some on here suggest. These ideas didn't come to him in the last election cycle. He ran on a similar platform in 1988 and were the majority of us a Revolution then for these ideas or did it stick that he was a crazy kook? Had we even heard about him at all? Yes a lot of these topics presented hear might seem like they are on the fringes now but if there is legitimacy to the argument and the events or acts threaten the fabric of the nation, why should BTM be the one to ignore them? Do we want to pander or do we want to have an intelligent dialog about these types of things?
I think that the interpretations of facts gleaned from covering meetings like Bilderberg, the Council on Foreign Relations, or the Bohemian Grove should also be open to debate on this site. The best way to find out if an idea/interpretation has merit is to challenge it as hard as you can and see if it stands up to the challenges.
As I stated before, I believe Alex Jones raises important issues, but sometimes overreaches in his interpretation of the facts as broad conspiracies. Ron Paul never interpreted the disturbing trends in American politics as conspiracies, always as bad ideas that had the support of powerful people. I do believe that in most cases, this is the more plausible explanation for what we are fighting against.
Starting from this assumption, and requiring overwhelming proof that a "conspiracy" really exists, is also a healthier approach. Too often, my impression at least from those purporting a conspiracy is that the conspiracy becomes an excuse - perhaps not even intentionally - to shift all of the blame or responsibility for the problem onto "dark, mysterious forces" over which we hold no control. The reality is that most of the things our government does that we as freedom lovers do not like are actually supported by - in fact DEMANDED by - the majority of Americans. That may be the result of conditioning since birth, but that conditioning is really the result of bad ideas that became popular worldwide over the past century.
I do believe that there are "conspiracies," but not as broad or far-reaching as described sometimes by Alex Jones. However, some of the results he describes could certainly come to pass as unintended consequences - think about who is more dangerous, an idiot with a loaded gun that means you no harm or someone that is really trying to kill you?
I say, introduce any story, no matter how "fringe" some people may think it is, but be prepared to be challenged, in fact, welcome challenge, to see if the evidence really stands up to scrutiny.
And be nice, everyone! I'm trying, and if I can do it... :)
Tom Mullen
www.tommullen.net
www.myspace.com/skepticsongs
a day off and miss all the great debate. Glad to see that there are others that got my back.. where you been .. GreenPepper, Parisi and MilitantLibertarian..??
Thank you guys, for saying it so much better than I ever could have. Although I have great hope I am not so sure the will ever "get it".
Interesting too that someone confirmed my suspicions of an agenda by certain folks here at BTM.
dizzy from all the time travel? You are perhaps the first and only Conspiracy (with a capital C) theorist with the shizoid theory that someone on BTM has a secret agenda.
Perhaps you need to add another layer of aluminum foil to your special hat.
secret. Its quite obvious and now confirmed.
2 layers
by the way, who is it and what's their agenda?
Am I one of them?
Until recently, I was an over-the-road truck driver, so I didn't have a lot of connectivity or time to spend browsing the 'Net. Now that I'm self-unemployed again, I have all kinds of time. :)
Anyone need some website copy? :D I've been doing long-overdue yardwork and wanna get out of it.
--Aaron
The Militant Libertarian
http://www.MilitantLibertarian.org
http://cryptome.info/bilderberg08/bilderberg08.htm
Thanks for posting =)
Especially our stooge in chief Benster Bernanke. He looks like he knows what's coming for him and his cronies when the debt money culture collapses. R
I like all the people givin em hell in the front. More on the way.
I think I was one who voted down your Bilderberg article. If you want to know why, I'll explain. Not an expert on the subject, but an expert on why I hope it does not become a top tier issue on BTM.
Yes, Parisi - if I'm getting voted down, especially for my column, I'd like to know why.
Lisa Kelly
BreaktheMatrix.com
Much experience at Daily Paul revealed that the ‘evil elite' conspiracies are divisive, litmus test sub-issues, counter-productive to the larger movement for liberty.
It wasn’t so much the fluoride, the chemtrails and the ‘planes never crashed into the World Trade Centers, there were missiles with expertly timed and planted bombs to form the gash so we would believe wings struck the buildings’ crowd and what they believed. It was their ubiquity and intolerance.
In December, they said polls were manufactured by the elite against Ron Paul and those who put any stock in them were foolish or complicit. In Jan they said Mike Huckabee’s rise was the pre-destined choice of men behind the curtains controlling the media, citing Huck’s limited fundraising as proof of that. Then threads were dominated by posters claiming Ron Paul truly won New Hampshire but Diebold fixed the results, and questioners of that earned a Scarlet ‘I’ for idiot.
This was during the heat of a campaign that elevated the liberty agenda to perhaps its greatest height in our lifetimes. Counterproductive doesn’t begin to describe it.
The believers could no longer tolerate the non-believers, and to a lesser extent, vice versa. The “DownsizeDC.org” styled DPers left en masse, the “prisonplanet.com” DPers stayed, the site shrank, debate shrank, plans failed, momentum dissipated.
There is a huge opportunity for BTM within the largely unserviced gap in the liberty spectrum between the aloof CATO institute scholars and the single-minded paranoids spoiling for a fight.
I’ve considered the conspiracy theories, read, watched videos, and I happen to not be buying. If you see my profile, I also have an up close and personal relationship with media people whom I've asked many questions over many years.
I am wary of conspiracy talk dominating another website, plain and simple. Don’t think it can’t happen here. Hence the vote down.
refrain from tyring to cram their info or theories or beliefs down other people's throats unwillingly.
However, the Bilderberg meeting is a real event. It is happening now, the head of our Fed has been photographed there. Not a single major media outlet has covered the story. Should BTM follow their lead and ignore it?
I understand your avoidance of conspiracy theories in general, but the Bilderberg meeting isn't a conspiracy, it's news.
Our objective at BreakTheMatrix is to consistently put forth the positive message of optimism, hope, freedom and prosperity. This was the Ron Paul approach, and he was exactly right. Downbeat, doom and gloom, fear, hate-- these things don't sell in the mainstream market. R
I just posted a letter going to the Gop.
WE all need to vote here for RON PAUL!!
IT HAS OVER 6,600 Voted Already!
Its in the "Content" area. Lets all make sure
we get this vote out for Ron Paul!!
Thanks
Alfred
Remember the Words you say keep them soft and sweet You never know from day to day which one's you'll have to eat! www.tiptopwebsite.com/liberty4us
i like alex jones and do listen to his programs . i have seen some of his movies. but at the same time i can understand that you need to take him with a grain of salt. if you haven't seen endgame it has some good info on the bilderbuger's and not just from alex.
In my opinion, Alex Jones is a top-notch freedom-fighter and is one of the few sticking his neck all the way out there. The fact that he's let them marginalize him, pigeonhole him, and call him all kinds of names to sully his reputation, and yet he's still fighting the good fight tells me that he's at least sincere in his desire to get the truth out there.
I'm a fan of him and his show and websites, but to be honest, I'm like you: I can't listen to more than one three-hour show a week without literally going bunkers (a version of "bonkers") and stockpiling and watching the skies and streets for the evil that's coming.
In my opinion, a dose of this every month or so is good for us, though. It's a dose of the reality that's coming and that we need to work hard to stop!
--Aaron
The Militant Libertarian
http://www.MilitantLibertarian.org
Can I go??? I'll take notes and carry luggage!!!
. . . not to laugh out loud while "serious" events and discussions are occurring among these oh so serious and important people. R
requirement
I'm gonna have to do some serious soul searching
before I can reply
. . . to attend next year's meeting as our representative from BreakTheMatrix. I'm sure they'll be wanting us there. R